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Looking at Lists of Bests (again)

May 17th, 2011 at 13:14

Last week, Tehani (@editormum) and Kirstyn (@fearofemeralds) started tweeting about the gender balance of the recent Guardian article, “The stars of modern SF pick the best science fiction“. We discussed it with some other people at the time, but I wanted to note down some of my thoughts & responses to the article, as well as the discussion.

Thought the First: I totally love that people spot this stuff now and call it to Galactic Suburbia’s attention rather than the other way around. In many cases, they parse it so we don’t have to.

Thought the Second: I totally ran my eye down the page and thought: Okay, not many women are having their work nominated here, but it does look at least like they asked lots of women their opinions. My informal survey made me think the genders of authors asked to contribute was roughly even.

Just as the conversation started getting interesting, I thought I’d better check the numbers, and before I had even got halfway down the page, Kirstyn got in ahead of me:

@fearofemeralds
Best SF? Authors asked:16M/8F; Authors rec’d: 20M/4F. Only 1 M author rec’s book by F (and yes, it was Le Guin’s LHD): http://bit.ly/k5fH73

So that’s some more interesting things. Half as many women as men were included in the article as providing recommendations – and that was enough for me, an active and switched-on feminist hobbyist-Table of Contents-critical-appraiser (no, it doesn’t all fit on a business card) to think it was roughly even. When I saw what the real numbers were, I wanted to throw a cup of tea over myself.

Kirstyn presented the information that there were 16 men and 8 women surveyed, and yet 20 male authors were recommended, and only 4 women. She noted that only one male author recommended a book by a woman, and that it was Le Guin’s Left Hand of Darkness.

The Twitter conversation got a bit muddled at that point and I want to reiterate that none of us rolling our eyes meant anything derogatory at all to Ursula Le Guin, to that book (which is an acknowledged Great Work of the science fiction field) or to Kim Stanley Robinson, who chose it as his pick. It was an awesome choice, and he deserves kudos for remembering that women write science fiction too.

The reason there was eye-rolling is a carryover from many discussions we’ve (i.e. Galactic Suburbia and Friends) had about similar lists over the last year (The SF Signal MindMeld has been a common source for these) and more, which has brought up the anecdotal evidence that, when asked to recommend Great or Important or Best SF books, men are far more likely to produce lists of all male works, while women’s lists tend to be more gender balanced. In a large majority of cases where men do recommend a work by a woman, it seems to be Ursula Le Guin and particularly The Left Hand of Darkness.

I’m not saying, I repeat, that this is always the case. But it’s a common pattern, and one that interests me greatly. Why that book, in particular? Apart from it being awesome, which is a perfectly valid reason, why is that the science fiction book by a woman which seems to most often get remembered and recommended by men? More to the point, why are so many others consistently forgotten, unless the actual theme of the question specifies that we’re talking about women’s work?

Now, a list like this does not provide especially hard data about what people actually think, gender-wise. A list of one (which is what each author was asked for, individually, with no reference to each other’s picks) is not the sort of thing that calls up conscious thoughts of balanced representation. It’s only when a bunch of lists of one are put together into a list of, oh, 24, that the patterns start to look rather telling. I do think that this is at least partly how the sausagefest that is the SF Hall of Fame comes about (1 editor, 1 writer, 1 artist, 1 other, oops they’re all blokes again) – though I’m not convinced that’s much of an excuse.

On the other hand, as many of the MindMelds and indeed a lot of the last year’s themed lists in the Guardian itself (not gender specific) have shown, there are plenty of people who, when asked to make a list of many authors or works, still manage to come up with all or mostly men.

(Which is not to say that anyone who mostly remembers or values works by men, especially in a field as male-dominated as science fiction, are sexist or anti-feminist or any of those things – mostly it just means those are the books they like, and everyone is free to like or dislike books based on their own preferences. It’s just, you know, Worth Noticing The Patterns)

The information that jumped out at me from this particular Guardian list was not that almost all the men asked reached first for a male author or his work, but that 5/8 of the women also did. Again, this is not to criticise their choices. It’s an excellent article in that every choice is presented and described in very personal, intimate terms. The unfortunate gender balance is a pattern that emerges from the article, and does not take away from the quality of the article or the individual responses.

Except… well. It kind of does, doesn’t it? When you look at it as a whole. And I do wonder why only 8 women out of 24 were seen as enough. A list like this is almost always going to be male-heavy because of that old chestnut of men dominating science fiction (as if 80 years of ignoring women’s work was a justification for continuing to do so in the name of historical veracity), but while I wouldn’t have expected 50-50 in people’s answers, why such a huge disparity in the people of whom the question was asked? Even if less than half of those women themselves picked other women, the article would certainly have felt more balanced with wider diversity in the people included.

Or were the Guardian, like my subconscious unthinking inner reader, happy enough with the gender balance as published because, you know, it sort of felt about even?

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3 Responses to “Looking at Lists of Bests (again)”

  1. Thoraiya Says:

    Hehehe

    Question.

    Just imagine there was gender balance in the list…but it was 50% Ursula and 50% other random men. Would you still be annoyed?

    I think you would, because you do not Worship the Ursula as I do, and recognise that her proper place is #1 in everybody’s list, male or female, bwahaha!

    Why is she easy to choose when asked to pick only one? Why is it so often the Dispossessed or the Left Hand of Darkness?

    Because all of her genius, all of her simple and evocative language, all of her powerful themes, are encapsulated in each of those books.

    When you have only one book to pick, don’t you think of your favourite author and then try to pick their single most important work? Doesn’t that immediately put the stand-alone writers at an advantage?

    I love Frank Herbert and I love Sherri Tepper. But when I think of Frankie, there is one work that encapsulates his message, and that is “Dune,” but when I think of Tepper I can’t think of a clear frontrunner, I think she did such different things in “Beauty” compared to “Grass” and so I’d end up going the man-vote if I only had one book to pick between them.

    Another example. If you had to pick one book from either Susanna Clarke or Jo Rowling, what would you do then? You couldn’t pick a single Harry Potter book and place it above Jonathan Strange, could you? Even if you preferred the Harry Potter series as a whole? A single, mind-blowing work trumps a series every time, and I think Jonathan Strange may be the next book to start annoying you, next to LHD, because it is memorable and it is singular :D

    Not making excuses for anyone. It obviously wasn’t even, and I noticed immediately. But I’d hate to think you would disqualify my pick because Ursula is my favourite but not yours :D

    You know what else I noticed? My computer is broken and so I can’t go back to check, but it seemed to me a bunch of people on that list were science fiction deniers – that is, they don’t like to be shelved with the very science fiction they were asked about, or they are predominantly known to the Guardian for their mainstream literary works.

    That annoys me way more, to be honest :p

    Thoraiya

  2. tansyrr Says:

    Ursula is never, ever disqualified! I have no objection to her being anyone’s first pick at all. (you’re right her work is not my favourite but I recognise her importance in the field). I would have been annoyed if the list was 50% male and 50% Ursula (though that’s still better than a smaller female percentage) because that would emphasise her position as an exception/outlier.

    Often in male dominated fields, when a small number of women slip through, they are not seen as women, but as honorary men. This has its benefits, of course, but it doesn’t do much to help the overall system, and to open it out for a greater gender balance in the future. It also means that a single person or work is seen as representative of their whole gender, and any perceived faults/flaws are then used as an excuse to keep others out.

    The reputation/life cycle of a single book fascinates me, and this particular pattern is just shouting out at me now. I’d love to explore it more. A book of essays by men about Ursula’s work (chicks dig time lords in reverse?) would be fascinating to read. I’ve only read critical work about her in the feminist context but there’s obviously something else there.

    You’re absolutely right too that someone with a single iconic work is more likely to dominate these lists – though in this case they were allowed to cite a body of work rather than a single text.

    I also noticed some non SFy SF being discussed, and there may have been some cultural cringe in there, but I do love that Ursula herself took the opportunity to present Virginia Woolf as a science fiction writer!

  3. Thoraiya Says:

    Hmm.

    You may be right, but I don’t see Ursula as an honourary man. I just see “A Wizard of Earthsea” as a gateway drug. It’s about a boy wizard, right? Back when it was written, it’s what all the kiddies had read to them in bed, boy or girl. That’s what made it easy for men to keep on reading her when they grew up. She wrote really cool boy wizard adventures that sucked them in.

    That’s my theory anyway :D

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