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Our gallant heroes return

Tuesday, May 18th, 2010

In case you missed me bouncing and squeeing on Twitter last night, my favourite podcast The Sofanauts is back! The new episode features the legendary Tony C Smith chatting with Cheryl Morgan and our own Jonathan Strahan about the Nebula results, and the changing face of the SF awards landscape.

While it’s not quite the old format, which I was rather attached to, and it didn’t have Jeremy Tolbert and Jeff VanderMeer ranting about Asimovs, it was still an excellent, interesting conversation which will hopefully lead to many more. Apparently the Sofanauts will continue with occasional special episodes rather than the old weekly format, but I’m not complaining…

The sad demise of Sofanauts was one of the big inspirations for Alisa, Alex and I to finally start up a regular podcast of our own. We’d previously only managed to produce one annually, which is just not good enough, and at one point we seriously considered asking if we ourselves could take over the Sofanauts brand. Ultimately we decided that whatever we did would end up being so different that calling it anything like the Sofanauts would be a massive cheat. And that’s how Galactic Suburbia came to be!

And of course, apart from us being a group of people sitting around on Skype talking about science fictional stuff, it’s pretty different! :D

Glad to be hearing that familiar theme tune again, though, and hope for many more eps!

A Question of Canon-Building

Sunday, May 16th, 2010

In our most recent episode of Galactic Suburbia, Alisa pointed us towards this Mind Meld post that asked a variety of people which 10 SF books should be part of every fan’s library. Alisa noted that while the women asked this question generally mentioned books from a variety of authors, and more than one female writer especially, no man asked in this first part included more than one book by a woman – and that book was always Ursula Le Guin’s The Left Hand of Darkness.

While this does point towards the incredible success and popularity of that particular text as a SF classic, it was both interesting and concerning that there was still such imbalance. This led to all kinds of discussion, not only in the podcast, but across Twitter, about the usefulness of these kinds of top 10 lists, and how they could be used to construct an “agreed-upon canon.”

Jonathan Strahan expanded upon his own thoughts on the matter in this audio-post, looking more closely at the terms of definition implied by the question, on the fun and problematic nature of canon-building, and in fact why he doesn’t like the concept of making such lists.

I agree with Jonathan that discussions of canonicity (hmm, is that a word?) are best done without formal structures or restrictions such as those lists offer. While lists (and I include awards shortlists here as well as top 10 list) do provoke conversations, inevitably those conversations tend to be negative rather than positive, and I think that’s a shame – so many people respond to a list by saying what was overlooked or left off! Which of course is utterly valid, but not entirely fair when the list is the choice of an individual. Having said that, I am disappointed at the lack of women that men have chosen to recommend in this forum, and that the exception to this is always the same woman and the same single work is intriguing. Certainly, the women in the experiment had no trouble coming up with multiple works by women which they considered significant!

(I have to admit that I get just as outraged as anyone when my favourite is not on a list, especially a list of key importance, though I do my best not to use the word ‘overlooked’ as it suggests the person making the list made a mistake rather than, you know, asserting their actual opinion)

I do think lists have a value in more than just provoking people to complain about what isn’t on them. The Mind Meld system is excellent in that it is asking a variety of people to comment and suggest works, rather than for instance trying to compose a single list from the various top 10s… had they done that, chances are very likely that The Left Hand of Darkness would have been very high up the single list, but also that it might have been the only work by a woman recommended at all.

This is why I find shortlists more interesting than who won the award (though winning awards is lovely), and collections of lists more interesting than single lists. The more people are consulted, and the more works they are able to reference, the more likely you are to find diversity and range in recommendations.

As soon as lists become restricted, you see fewer women on them. Many people complained about the Best Picture award of the Oscars this year having a shortlist of 10, but I liked it. The longer shortlists are, the more likely they are to reflect the whole range of excellent work produced in a single year. I know I used to get terribly frustrated when judging awards that the maximum number for a shortlist was 5 – sometimes there really are 7 excellent works in a year, and you want to talk about all of them!

Whenever people discusscanon, about what is in the canon and what should be in the canon, I always start feeling scratchy and uncomfortable. Because this leads into discussion about what books are ‘important’ and somehow that usually turns into a conversation about white men, all over again.

Jonathan suggested that with a top 10 list, people might have a tendency to look at which authors should be represented, rather than starting with the books: “okay, I have to have a Heinlein, and and Asimov, and… and…” which leads them to be celebrity-heavy. I think that’s true and also true that, as Alisa said in our podcast, with a list of 10, no one really has to look beyond the white men. The problem is figuring out which books to leave out, of those that first come to mind. There are few women whose names resonate to the majority of SF fans with the same power as Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke, Leiber, Dick, Pohl, Haldeman, Gibson, and so on. Which is not to say that their work is inferior, merely that their names do not carry the same star power. As Alisa has been saying a lot lately, our perceptions of how important an author are skewed by many factors: publisher support, awards, how memorable they are, and word of mouth. We’re still coming out of a time when the majority of opinions voiced about SF were those of male critics and readers, and that is bound to have an effect for many decades to come. Things are changing on that score, but slowly. I really liked that Jonathan, in his audio post, cited several works by women that would “tell the same story” as the iconic male-authored SF works by men, but sadly it rarely works out that way when most male readers are asked which books are important. Few people going to stop and think about which women contributed to early cyberpunk when they can just write down “Neuromancer” and move on.

My list, should I make one, of books which an SF fan should have in their library, would be almost entirely packed with feminist SF. Not because I would be wanting to make a statement, though statements are awesome things, but because that is my SF. I have read my share of the classics, and even appreciated many of them. If pressed, I could cite Starship Troopers or Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep or The Forever War, and I would acknowledge that most people should read Neuromancer at least once, though I liked Pattern Recognition a lot better…

But.

My science fiction fandom, my explorations of the genre, the parts of SF that really made me excited, aren’t about those books. My science fiction is the Women of Wonder anthologies, and the Tiptree Award history as told through their fundraising anthologies, and Women of Other Worlds, and more recently On Joanna Russ. My science fiction is Larbalestier and Mendelsohn and Merrick’s works of feminist SF history and criticism. My science fiction is Connie Willis and Lois McMaster Bujold.

My canon is “The Heat-Death of the Universe” and “The Ship Who Sang” and “What Men Don’t See” and “What I didn’t See” and “Rachel in Love.”

I mentioned on Twitter that my list of 10 would probably be all feminist SF and Jonathan pointed out that the question asked for general SF, not feminist SF. Which is true enough… But I’m sure no one who answered with 10 cyberpunk or space opera or “hard” SF titles would feel self-conscious about it. My SF is feminist SF, the two are intertwined for me, and I can sympathise with those men who answered the Mind Meld with mostly male authors, because I really would struggle to keep the male-authored books on there when I had so many great women that, quite frankly, every fan should have in their libraries.

Even then I know that my list would be lacking, because I just haven’t done well enough yet in reading SF by people of colour. Octavia Butler and Samuel Delaney are there on my list of authors to educate myself about, once I’m done with all this Joanna Russ, but they still leave a gaping hole in my education. I haven’t decided which of the two will be my Classic Author Obsession of 2011, and would be interested to hear from anyone as to which works of either of them I should start with! With Delaney I’m particularly interested in the ways that his work intersected with so much of the feminist SF of the 70′s, as most of what I’ve heard about him has been in relation to Russ or Tiptree. I’m also wondering if I should start with the new book that is due out shortly I think, or start back with his early work.

Ironically, at the end of all this, I’ve never personally been that excited by much of novel-length written by Ursula Le Guin. I am, however, very glad that a woman has written a book that so many people still consider vital and interesting and important, so many decades later. She wouldn’t have been on my mythical list of 10, but I think it’s awesome she is in so many other people’s.

No one person can read or love or recommend everything, and we’re all limited by our own biases and personal tastes.

All this goes to show I think is that if you are going to do something like the Mind Meld, the key is to ask as diverse a range of people as possible, in order that their answers also add diversity to what is considered “canon”. I think they did pretty well with that – after all it matters less that the men thought of including more than one female author when you have women whose opinions are also being sought, and ultimately a good range of works were recommended. I look forward to seeing what other works are discussed in the second post on this topic.

EDIT: I didn’t manage to articulate this on the first pass, but I think it’s important to note that the word ‘canon’ has quite negative connotations for anyone who has ever taken much of an interest in the way that female authors intersect with the history of literature. I know that my first gut reaction to the concept of canon building is along the lines of “something else to exclude Jane Austen from, then.” This is a big reason why I appreciate the acknowledgement of Mary Shelley’s contribution to the development of SF as a genre, every single time.

Why Do You Read What You Read?

Saturday, May 8th, 2010

Jonathan Strahan and Gary K Wolfe chat about reading, reviewing and short fiction over at the Coode Street Review podcast.

So much interesting stuff to unpack in there! I really enjoyed their discussion about the best short story writers in the field who don’t write novels, and how that affects their careers as well as readers. Also there’s the big question of – why do you read the books you read, how do you choose what to read (and what not to read) and how can you tell whether a book is going to be important before you read it?

Those questions are particularly cool because there is no single answer, every reader and reviewer would have a different one.

I’m reading Soulless by Gail Carriger, which I have spent the last seven months or so not reading, despite the fact that I liked the cover, I saw it raved about all over the net, it seemed like the sort of thing I would love, the later books have also been all over the net, and I even saw it once on a shelf in a bookshop where I felt positively obliged to buy something. Then Gail was nominated for the John W Campbell in the Hugo list, and Soulless turned up in the Locus Recommended Reading list, and it was pretty damn clear that the universe was telling me to READ THIS BOOK. So finally, finally, I ordered it, and started reading it the second it turned up, which is a good sign of a good book buy.

I guess my answer is, I just know if I’m going to like a book. My filters are so tight that it’s rare that a book gets through wrongly. There are an awful lot that I would love that never make it through those filters, because I’m always looking ahead to the new ones. Sometimes it’s important to listen to the universe, to make sure the right ones get an extra chance to get through!

More of the podcasty goodness includes Glen Cook & the changing face of sword and sorcery, how literary movements work, genre boundaries and reinventions, China Mieville, Jasper Fforde and how some readers read (and writers write) for sameness, and others for newness.

I recommend you give it a listen!

Hugo Shortlist!

Monday, April 5th, 2010

The Hugo shortlist nominees went up on Twitter this morning, Australian time – luckily I had been woken up early by my adorable/dreadful children, so I was around to read them as they came in.

I haven’t been as excited about a Hugo shortlist in years – not just because I got to nominate and will get to vote in these particular ones, but because it does look as if there has been a bit of a demographic shift this year. There are lots of women, new writers and online publications represented across most of the categories. Many things I really liked and indeed nominated got up, which is rather nice.

Congratulations to all the nominees! Hope to see as many of you as possible at Aussiecon this September.

The shortlisted items/people I am most excited about are:
Boneshaker, Cherie Priest (Tor) [best novel nominee]
“Act One”, Nancy Kress (Asimov’s 3/09) [best novella nominee]
“Eros, Philia, Agape”, Rachel Swirsky (Tor.com 3/09) [best novelette nominee]
“The Island”, Peter Watts (The New Space Opera 2) [best novelette nominee]
“It Takes Two”, Nicola Griffith (Eclipse Three) [best novelette nominee]
“Spar”, Kij Johnson (Clarkesworld 10/09) [best short story nominee]
On Joanna Russ, Farah Mendlesohn (ed.) (Wesleyan) [best related book nominee]
The Secret Feminist Cabal: A Cultural History of SF Feminisms, Helen Merrick (Aqueduct) [best related book nominee]
Jonathan Strahan [best editor, short form nominee]
Shaun Tan [best pro artist nominee]
StarShipSofa edited by Tony C. Smith [best fanzine nominee]

And the works that have been added to or moved up to the top of my reading list are:
Palimpsest, Catherynne M. Valente (Bantam Spectra) [best novel nominee]
The Windup Girl, Paolo Bacigalupi (Night Shade) [best novel nominee]
The Women of Nell Gwynne’s, Kage Baker (Subterranean) [best novella nominee]
Soulless by Gail Carriger [The John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer nominee]
Rosemary and Rue by Seanan McGuire [The John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer nominee]

Ah yes, somehow it all comes down to more books for Tansy to read… funny, that.

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… or burn it to the ground

Wednesday, March 17th, 2010

Just some late breaking news here. The Tiptree winners and honours list have been released. I love the fact that they do it this way, so the shortlisted people get to appreciate that honour without getting distracted about whether or not they won…

It really is an honour to be shortlisted, you know.

Jonathan Strahan’s well received anthology Eclipse 3, which is full of awesome stories, many of them by women, had two individual stories honoured by this year’s Tiptree, which is pretty extraordinary. Congratulations to Caitlin Kiernan & Maureen McHugh. McHugh’s story in particular was one of my favourites last year.

The other super supremely exciting news for Australians is that Paul Haines’ extraordinary novella “Wives” is on the honour list. It’s really rare for Australians to be noticed in awards like this – and it’s wonderful that this brilliant story about grotesque gender politics has been recognised internationally for what it is.

EDIT: Quote from the judge’s report grabbed from [info] papersky‘s LJ – “Wives” by Paul Haines (in X6 edited by Keith Stevenson, coeur de lion 2009) —A sharp and powerful but deeply ugly look at white working class Australian masculinity in a world where women are scarce.

SECOND EDIT: Finally found a link to the real judge’s report/press release!

To Be Continued

Thursday, March 11th, 2010

I had a great chat tonight on Twitter with @JonathanStrahan, @charliejane, @charlesatan and others about fantasy and the way that publishers are reacting in different ways to the reader resistance phenomenon: readers turning their back on extended fantasy series, and in some cases refusing to start reading a series until it’s complete, so that they can happily get invested in the characters without worrying the author is going to drop dead, or make them wait.

Some of the techniques publishers are using include letting the author finish the whole series/trilogy so they can assure readers it’s all going to be there, and in many cases releasing the books much closer together, rather than the more traditional one volume a year. This is happening with my Creature Court trilogy, where the third book will be delivered around the time the first will be published, and they’ll be coming out six monthly. Meanwhile, Rowena Cory Daniells has a new trilogy coming out this year through Solaris at once a month! As Jonathan pointed out, this is a method the romance industry has been employing for years.

I get pretty angry about the most problematic method publishers use to overcome the reader resistence phenomenon: that is to say, fraud.

I still remember the fury I felt when I got to the end of Gwyneth Jones’ Bold as Love. There was no sign on the book that it was a continuous series, but ten pages from the end, I had suspected there was a lack of finality. Sure enough, “to be continued in Castles in the Sand.” There are other examples, quite a few of them documented across the web, of series which the publishers have, for whatever reason, chosen not to represent as a series from Book #1.

Here’s the thing: there are many things you can do to try to persuade readers that is going to be worth their while to pick up Book #1. But it’s not okay to pretend the book is something other than what it is. A reader who doesn’t want to read a lone Book #1 is going to be PARTICULARLY angry if they are tricked into buying a book under false pretences. They will tell their friends. And you know, if they don’t (as most readers don’t) know much about the industry and how it works, they’re not going to blame the publisher. They’re going to blame the author.

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November Reads

Tuesday, December 1st, 2009

It feels sooooo strange to be posting without a word count bar at the top. It’s going to be March now before I’m back to writing first draft stuff. Straaange. But like everything else, I’m sure it will be here pretty damned fast.

Despite NaNo commitments and all the Last Short Storying, I managed to read 8 books in the last month, which is only two short of my monthly target.

The three I loved best were Derby Girl by Shauna Cross, Booklife by Jeff VanderMeer and Rampant by Diana Peterfreund (I’ll link to my review of that one when ASif posts it).

I also very much enjoyed Luv Ya Bunches by Lauren Myracle and I’m afraid rather dragged myself through Vacations From Hell, a YA short story collection which was not nearly as diverting as Prom Nights From Hell.

I really liked The It Girl: Adored, one of the Gossip Girl spin off Jenny-Humphrey-goes-to-boarding-school books, though I’ll admit I don’t remember much about it. This is my favourite Gossip Girl series. I also went back to the classics by reading the second of the ‘real’ Gossip Girl books, You Know You Love Me, which is kind of… weird to be reading now, after seeing the series. Alternate history!

Yes, I’m hoping to get to more crunchy books in future months as my post-baby fatigue ebbs away but I do love my YA…

I read The New Space Opera II, edited by Jonathan Strahan and Gardner Dozois, as part of my final round up of stories for LSS (favourite stories recced here) and that totally counts toward my book total even though the 200,000 odd words of Shadow Unit doesn’t… sigh. I enjoyed TNSOII though overall the stories were less exciting/inventive/generally wondrous than in Eclipse 3, also edited by Jonathan, which I did not read this month, but which may well be my anthology of the year… I’ll let you know on Dec 31st!

TNSOII does have the distinction of being the first entire book I read on the iPod, via Stanza, which may well change the way I read in the future. Considering the wealth of e-material we receive for LSS can I just say… YAY! The iPod touch is remarkably easy to read even in a sunny playground, and I love the page turny facility of Stanza even if it does turn docs into random chapters. Also it makes reading while a) breastfeeding, b) babyjoggling, c) big girl cuddling, d) cooking, e) driving (KIDDING) awfully easy.

Finally I have a reason to develop a love affair with Project Gutenberg!

As a final note, Glenda Larke is guest blogging over at Ripping Ozzie Reads, about her experience as a pro writer tackling NaNoWriMo for the first time. Go check it out!

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